#1072937 - 02/20/07 01:50 PM
Re: **Official HID Thread**
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PurduinaSi
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Registered: 04/16/04
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Loc: Westchester, NY
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$1k is way too much. And HID fogs are worthless.
Contrary to popular belief, there is a such thing as 'too much light', even from a drivers perspective. High levels of foreground light give the illusion, the subjective impression, of comfort and security and "good lighting". This is one of the same reasons that OEM manufacturers never use HID foglights (poor CRI of HID bulbs being the other main reason).
In clear conditions, more foreground light is not a good thing, it's a bad thing. Some foreground light is necessary so you can use your peripheral vision to see where you are relative to the road edges, the lane markings etc. But foreground light is far less safety-critical than light cast well down the road into the distance, because at any significant speed (much above 30 mph), what's in the foreground is too close for you to do much about. If you increase the foreground light, your pupils react to the bright, wide pool of light by constricting, which in turn substantially reduces your distance vision—especially since there's no increase in down-the-road distance light to go along with the increased foreground light.
US-DOT headlamps have arguably inadequate levels of light in the foreground and to the sides. Many US DOT headlamps have what seems to be a "black hole" in front of the car, with essentially the entire beam concentrated in a narrow band or ball of light thrown into the distance. This problem gets overcorrected many times by an abundant HID light source and we have all this extra light to work with. Where are you going to put the extra light? You can put some of it into the "hot spot" to improve distance vision, but you can't put too much of it there, because you'll glare other drivers (and exceed regulated maximum intensities). You can spread some of it around in the rest of the beam, but there are often even stricter maxima outside of the hot spot or zone, and too much "generalized" light causes veiling glare and backdazzle in bad weather. So they put a lot of it in the foreground. But over a certain level, which is quite easy to exceed with an HID headlamp, undesireable things start to happen. You sacrifice distance vision, you get high levels of reflected-light glare on wet roads, that sort of thing.
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#1095509 - 02/26/07 04:21 PM
Re: **Official HID Thread**
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ccarbajal
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Registered: 02/22/07
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Loc: The OC
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PM'd back. Any of the guys on this forum will be more than willing to help ya out.
-Matt
Great! PMed the guys you referred me to. Thanks!
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#1109156 - 03/01/07 08:58 PM
Re: **Official HID Thread**
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lemmiwinks
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: bakersfield, cali
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yea i know it was way too much but hell i'm a HID nut so it all works out LMAO
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#1123053 - 03/05/07 07:22 PM
Re: **Official HID Thread**
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OblivionLord
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Registered: 01/15/07
Posts: 65
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Thomas on your black civic.. What lip brand and and make is that? I really like it. Do they sell them on the market and if so where?
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#1297603 - 04/25/07 08:18 PM
Re: **Official HID Thread**
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TRAV!
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Registered: 04/25/07
Posts: 14
Loc: NYC
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i would NEVER IN MY LIFE get HID headlights. I think there the most dangerous and annoying thing on the road. Who on here has had experiences like mine in which a car behind you(usually an SUV) has HID lights that hit your side view mirror and you cant see anything at night. Very dangerous and very annoying.
HID foglights I think are awesome. Its a sick look for your car and the light dosent penetrate anyones vision.
Id love to share a pic of my 1993 Civic Hatchback(RIP) with my HID fogs(3k)with my high beams on
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#1297616 - 04/25/07 08:23 PM
Re: **Official HID Thread**
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TRAV!
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Registered: 04/25/07
Posts: 14
Loc: NYC
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also forgot to add, i would like to let people in the NY area know of a great HID supplier.
These are Banbo Brand HID kits. They come with a true 1 year warranty. The kit comes with a warranty card and all kits are serial numbered. No fake "verbal warranties" here. I have all sizes and colors. Include 6000k, 8000k, 10000k, 12000k and 3000k yellow, Extreme Pink, Blue and Purple. All kits are in stock, special orders can be arranged. Shipping is included in the price. Kit details are as follows:
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7) Working temperature: -40 ~ +105°C
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9) Life-span: 3,000 hours
10) Startup time: can reach 20% of the standard brightness within 1 second; can reach 80% of the standard brightness within 4 seconds
11) Auto cut-off: once there is a short circuit or open circuit, the ballast will
stop working automatically
12) Protection voltage: when the voltage exceed 19V, the ballast will stop working
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#1470586 - 05/23/07 04:10 PM
Re: **Official HID Thread**
[Re: TRAV!]
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bsmith100
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Registered: 05/23/07
Posts: 124
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Has anyone tried retrofitting a 96-00 civic with a complete S2000 setup?
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#1746692 - 08/13/07 12:07 PM
Re: **Official HID Thread**
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dragon208
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Registered: 06/03/03
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Loc: Toronto, ONTARIO
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#1988291 - 10/28/07 09:56 AM
Re: **Official HID Thread**
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wings5555
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Registered: 10/28/07
Posts: 5
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nice hid's purple ftw
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#1988664 - 10/28/07 02:03 PM
Re: **Official HID Thread**
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2000CheetahStud
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Registered: 02/10/03
Posts: 49866
Loc: Cincinnati, OH
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Has anyone tried retrofitting a 96-00 civic with a complete S2000 setup?
Search Honda-tech for that. I know the S2k has one of the best hid setups in any production car. The ONLY thing I dont much care for is that they're not bi-xenon. Which means the high beam is not HID.
-Matt
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#2051254 - 11/20/07 03:32 AM
Re: **Official HID Thread**
[Re: 2000CheetahStud]
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kakl
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Registered: 02/14/07
Posts: 20
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I know a few people with S2000 projectors retrofitted into their headlights.
I'd just go with the TSX projectors due to similar output and lower price.
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