#21241 - 09/11/02 11:27 AM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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AnomalantSI
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Registered: 08/07/01
Posts: 3768
Loc: Southern California
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How much did you guys generally spend on setting these things up? And How many miles is too many miles too late to put on a kit?
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#21243 - 09/17/02 09:28 PM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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mebhii
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Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 39
Loc: dfw, texas
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2000 Si b16a2
240whp/ 14.2 quarter (8psi boost,street tires, and a ton of wheelspin, not tuned on dyno)
greddy turbo kit rebuilt to 20g and clipped 10deg. on exhaust
type31 intercooler
type s bov
profec b boost controller
evo exhaust (no cat)
engine is race balanced and blueprinted by automotive machine and supply (ft worth,tx)
bored to 1.8 liters
eagle rods, endyne pistons (thermal coated) 9:1 compression
golden eagle sleeves
cometic head gasket
ported and polished head, 7angle valve job
endyne titanium valves, springs, retainers
exhaust ports thermal coated
hondata intake gasket
aem cam gears
aem fuel rail
aem fpr
walbro 225lph fuel pump
rc eng 310 injectors (too small)
spoon thermostat
cluthmasters dual friction clutch
***following are not installed:
crane hi-6 ignition and coil
hondata stage 4
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#21245 - 09/22/02 08:47 AM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite! SAFE FOR DAILY DR
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immortaly2k
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Registered: 08/05/02
Posts: 112
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Not to have the above happen, what is recommend for making a Greddy Kit " Safe For Daily Driving" ? MSD / Cold Plugs / Water Injection / compression reduction / turbo timer / etc.
Also, I have heard from a couple of people that their stock 8psi setup piked to 12+ psi during a race. Can this be controled via loosening a BOV to leak at X psi?
And what is the best BOV for LOW LOW psi blow by to assure no more then X psi goes through to your throttle body?
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98 GTP - 240 WHP (PD SC) Wife's Ride
97 BMW M3 - 328RWHP (CF SC Vortec 9psi)
97 Talon TSi AWD 409AWHP (Turbonetics 22psi)
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#21249 - 09/27/02 11:46 AM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite! SAFE FOR DAILY DR
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TurboSi@RPI
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Registered: 09/24/01
Posts: 2491
Loc: NE
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To prevent the above from happening, upgrade your fuel system. I think the blue box is reliable at the stock boost level of 5 psi or so. You can raise the boost a little but then you are taking a risk. My engine has survived the past year and nearly 20,000 miles now. I have run UPTO 8 psi, but I have also heard detonation too. Until I can find a way to run bigger injectors, the boost is staying down for now.
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07 Galaxy Gray Si Sedan
06 Winning Blue Mazda3 GT Hatch - Traded after 2 oil changes
2000 EBP Si - STOLEN
Greddy Turbo - 13.8 @105mph
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#21250 - 09/28/02 01:56 PM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite! SAFE FOR DAILY DR
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immortaly2k
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Registered: 08/05/02
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TurboSi@RPI: I thought the NON-IC kit is good for 5.5psi but once you include the Type 31 or 24 FMIC one could run 8psi safely with the BLUE BOX. Is this not correct? Thanks!
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00 Civic Si - Stock (let the fun begin)
98 GTP - 240 WHP (PD SC) Wife's Ride
97 BMW M3 - 328RWHP (CF SC Vortec 9psi)
97 Talon TSi AWD 409AWHP (Turbonetics 22psi)
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#21251 - 09/28/02 03:17 PM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite! SAFE FOR DAILY DR
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TurboSi@RPI
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Registered: 09/24/01
Posts: 2491
Loc: NE
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Sometimes it runs fine at 8 psi, sometimes it may start to detonate around 7500-8000 rpm. I'm in the northeast and when it gets cold out, forget it. I have to leave the boost controller off or else it breaks up at even 6 psi. I've heard that if you move the intake air temperature sensor into the charge pipe (after the intercooler, before the throttle body) that the engine should run better. After a descent run, you can really feel a difference between the intake tube on the turbo, and the charge pipe after the intercooler so I would believe it.
But running 8 psi with the intercooler seems to have alot to do with the weather. It seemed alright this summer, but its starting to cool off up here and I think its time to turn the boost down. I'm thinking about trying the new SMC and pick up some 450 cc injectors off a DSM this winter. In the mean time I'm gonna take it easy cuz I really did beat the heck out of the motor this past year.
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07 Galaxy Gray Si Sedan
06 Winning Blue Mazda3 GT Hatch - Traded after 2 oil changes
2000 EBP Si - STOLEN
Greddy Turbo - 13.8 @105mph
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#21252 - 09/28/02 10:28 PM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite! SAFE FOR DAILY DR
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JAMinCiViC
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Registered: 02/25/00
Posts: 3918
Loc: San Diego, now Iwakuni, JAPAN
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Here's the scenario that happened when I blew the pistons.
91octane
45 degrees out
hi boost was set at 8 psi.
I've been beating on the motor and I guess it was payback!!
I didn't hear detonation cause I was in the "ZonE Yo" It could've spiked but I was paying attention to that damn typeR that just got a 1.5 car head start.
Anyways. I've picked up a few more parts now. I'm going to try the GSR cams and some stiffer valve springs(HondaSaver.com) I installed the oil cooler and JG manifold. Hopefully I can get this thing strapped on to a dyno and get some #'s!!! Also.. working on traction. Kaaz LSD and z10's will be on next week
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#21253 - 09/29/02 12:52 AM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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ncognito2000_EX
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Registered: 11/30/01
Posts: 137
Loc: Orlando, FL, USA
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99 Civic Si
Greddy Turbo
Greddy Type 24v Intercooler
HKS SSQ BOV
Hondata 3b + datalogging
RC 440cc injectors
ACT xtreme pp/hd disc
Fidanza flywheel
Thermal 3" turbo exhaust
Testpipe from testpipe.com
The motor is otherwise stock for now
Tuned to 227hp at 7.5psi and 261hp/195tq at 10.3 psi...
Dyno chart here
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#21254 - 09/29/02 07:42 PM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite! SAFE FOR DAILY DR
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immortaly2k
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Registered: 08/05/02
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TurboSi@RPI: Yaa.. I am thinking of just running the EFI PMS & 450cc on the car instead of using the BLUE BOX. I run 750cc on my DSM with a EFI PMS also. Nice piggyback unit.
JAMinCiViC: Nice upgrades.. Look forward to the #'s
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00 Civic Si - Stock (let the fun begin)
98 GTP - 240 WHP (PD SC) Wife's Ride
97 BMW M3 - 328RWHP (CF SC Vortec 9psi)
97 Talon TSi AWD 409AWHP (Turbonetics 22psi)
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#21255 - 10/02/02 09:28 PM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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immortaly2k
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Registered: 08/05/02
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Well, it's on it's way... My months of thought has brought me to the Greddy community. Greddy Kit + Small FMIC + Gauges + J&S + Dual + Timer + Type S BOV + Clutch ($4000 plunge) are on their way, arriving mid-next week.
Was going to read over http://www.turbocivicsi.com for some tips prior to installation.
Any other tid-bits of what to DO and NOT to DO during installation would be greatly appreciated.
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00 Civic Si - Stock (let the fun begin)
98 GTP - 240 WHP (PD SC) Wife's Ride
97 BMW M3 - 328RWHP (CF SC Vortec 9psi)
97 Talon TSi AWD 409AWHP (Turbonetics 22psi)
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#21257 - 10/08/02 03:12 PM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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immortaly2k
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Registered: 08/05/02
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Thanks for the advise.. The kit will be arriving this week but I will need to do the Clutch first and that takes damn 8+ hours to do!! YUK! Oh well.. Looks like a Friday night through Sunday job including turbo, FMIC, Blue Box, Gauges, J&S and clutch installation.
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00 Civic Si - Stock (let the fun begin)
98 GTP - 240 WHP (PD SC) Wife's Ride
97 BMW M3 - 328RWHP (CF SC Vortec 9psi)
97 Talon TSi AWD 409AWHP (Turbonetics 22psi)
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#21260 - 10/10/02 11:09 PM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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Gaidzak
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Registered: 12/30/99
Posts: 4960
Loc: Carlsbad, Ca
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My cousin who's a turbo freak said that no shaving should be required of the block when installing the turbo. As it has been written on turbocivicsi.com a part of the block where the label B16A2 is written needs to be shaved to fit the 90 degree intake pipe.
Pretty much we're keepin a small gap between the 90 degree intake pip and the turbo intake and using that gap to somewhat reroute the pipe a little.
Imagine if you feel if you melted your motor, went back to honda after removing your turbo and cried. All they'd do is laugh at your face because there is a part of the block shaved where it used to save B16A2 now probably would say, B16A...
=)
Oh I also joined the greddy community Today. =)
Except, still have a lot of mods to work on. For example 3 inch downpipe, proper catalytic converter to support the 3inch catback from RND.
450 CC DSM injectors, except Turborex@aol.com isn't doing the cleaning until December =(
Anyone know where I can pick up a cheap P28 ECU? =)
Need to purchase an ACT 6 pad clutch, but where?! =)
Greddy owners, help me, help you, help me, help you!
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#21262 - 10/19/02 10:38 PM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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Gaidzak
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Registered: 12/30/99
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Loc: Carlsbad, Ca
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#21263 - 10/29/02 02:24 AM
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S_T_O_L_N_1
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Registered: 09/26/01
Posts: 100
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I got a greddy turbo on GSR, 245.7whp and 216tq @ 9psi.
Standalone(speedpro).
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#21264 - 11/01/02 02:17 PM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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jsalicru
Newbie
Registered: 03/25/02
Posts: 16
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I have the kit at 9psi.... about one month ago I cracked a ring landing on No. 4. The car RAN AWESOME, ran a 13.5@106 before it blew...
Now Im looking for a forged piston that wouldn't be too noisy so that I can rebuild the motor..
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#21266 - 11/07/02 10:26 PM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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JesseH2424
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Registered: 11/07/02
Posts: 53
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how about some pics of these cars guys.
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#21267 - 11/09/02 02:19 AM
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Anonymous
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i will have around 4500-5000 grand come spring and i am looking into a reliable form of forced induction. suspension and tires are taken care of. what will i need to go along with the greddy kit. i was thinking of hondata s200 with 550 injectors. will i have enough to do a mild building of the block. i also have an exhaust. how much am i looking at to get started with everything i need. thanks for your time.
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#21269 - 11/12/02 01:29 AM
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Anonymous
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help me please
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#21270 - 11/12/02 03:20 PM
Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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TurboSi@RPI
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Registered: 09/24/01
Posts: 2491
Loc: NE
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$5000 should be able to get you the kit, intercooler, BOV, clutch, and the basic hondata setup. Maybe 1 or 2 gauges depending on what brand you get, new/used, etc. If you get the hondata in there and tuned you should be all set for 8 psi. Other things to consider are a boost controller ($50-$550) and a turbo timer (most are around $100).
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07 Galaxy Gray Si Sedan
06 Winning Blue Mazda3 GT Hatch - Traded after 2 oil changes
2000 EBP Si - STOLEN
Greddy Turbo - 13.8 @105mph
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#21272 - 11/12/02 10:37 PM
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Anonymous
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on 8psi is that looking like 220whp or around there? and my short term goal is mid 13's, do you think id be able to achieve that with an above average driver on good conditions and good track.
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#21273 - 11/13/02 11:45 AM
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TurboSi@RPI
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Registered: 09/24/01
Posts: 2491
Loc: NE
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8 psi tuned with a Hondata should get around 220 whp, give or take. That should plenty to get you into the mid 13's. I went 13.8 with the blue box at 8 psi, still running the stock cat and Kumho 712 tires.
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07 Galaxy Gray Si Sedan
06 Winning Blue Mazda3 GT Hatch - Traded after 2 oil changes
2000 EBP Si - STOLEN
Greddy Turbo - 13.8 @105mph
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Ya man.. I know the use of a BOV. Some BOV's leak at X amount of boost, which is a good thing if you have a Internally Gated turbo like a (14b/16g/18g/20g/etc), which "might" have a bit to small of a flap which "may" promote spikes "boost creep" under certain circumstance.
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