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#8655506 - 05/12/16 05:04 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: ]
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He probably means flat back so you have less frontal area for drag I.e. More aero. Yea no flappy clothes.

You're way overthinking it, just ride what you got
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#8655788 - 05/12/16 10:14 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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I refer to "overthinking it" as pulling a stickaz

Mostly I'm just killing time because I have a century weekend after next. So any racing will wait till the week after. (they do 2x week races at track 3 miles from my house).
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#8655814 - 05/12/16 10:40 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: ]
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body position [aero tuck/position] is literally everything. most of that is actually flexibility


vs


eg the older guy is much higher/less aero, even on aerobars [I know them feels]
but probably, thats the best compromise between aero position and power output for his flexibility
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#8656075 - 05/12/16 12:46 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: stickaz_old]
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I'm not sure tuck matters much if you're wearing glorified train runners and flappy clothes and look like sasquatch

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#8656658 - 05/12/16 08:29 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: ]
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well dudes im out! moving to colorado mon! was supposed to move the 24th but flew out for a job tuesday ,got it and i start wed!
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#8657348 - 05/13/16 10:41 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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 Originally Posted By: nato2377
well dudes im out! moving to colorado mon! was supposed to move the 24th but flew out for a job tuesday ,got it and i start wed!



I'm glad it's worked so well, I found out that taking a leap tends to work well (moved without jobs, got jobs easily).
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#8658191 - 05/13/16 08:14 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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 Originally Posted By: nato2377
well dudes im out! moving to colorado mon! was supposed to move the 24th but flew out for a job tuesday ,got it and i start wed!


So awesome to hear. Hopefully I have a place to crash when I come riding in Colorado!
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#8658600 - 05/14/16 11:37 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: nato2377
well dudes im out! moving to colorado mon! was supposed to move the 24th but flew out for a job tuesday ,got it and i start wed!


So awesome to hear. Hopefully I have a place to crash when I come riding in Colorado!


for sure!
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#8659639 - 05/16/16 12:36 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Best of luck. Can't wait to see the new adventures unfold.
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#8665824 - 05/20/16 08:48 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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I may have made some fitness improvements, dunno

held 300w+ easily in sustained climbs just now, took it easy elsewhere. Averaged 250w for 48m, grabbed the green jersey 2x, and was pretty competitive on the climbs \:o



got the green jersey [then had it stolen!] and got it back the next lap \:D
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#8688213 - 06/09/16 10:10 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: schtickaz.ai]
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starting to feel pretty good out here in the CO altitude. did my first training crit tonight and current US Road National Champion Greg Daniel was there. I averaged 27.5mph for an hour and did a lap of the 2.2mi course at 29.9mph. sat 3rd wheel on 2 attacks by greg,although they were relatively short. Got a set of Zipp 404's off of Craigslist with new tires,tubes,skewers and Dura Ace cassette for 550! WHAT! Man are they fast!
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#8688223 - 06/09/16 10:20 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Me and Greg Daniel
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#8688224 - 06/09/16 10:20 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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sorry for big pic lol
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#8688922 - 06/10/16 12:29 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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 Originally Posted By: nato2377
starting to feel pretty good out here in the CO altitude. did my first training crit tonight and current US Road National Champion Greg Daniel was there. I averaged 27.5mph for an hour and did a lap of the 2.2mi course at 29.9mph. sat 3rd wheel on 2 attacks by greg,although they were relatively short. Got a set of Zipp 404's off of Craigslist with new tires,tubes,skewers and Dura Ace cassette for 550! WHAT! Man are they fast!




Very happy for you man, solid move for you at your age!
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#8688931 - 06/10/16 12:36 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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damn lol, I'm almost embarassed to post this but HERE IT COMES ANYWAYS LOL

go head and TELL ME WHAT COLOR MY JERSEY IS




have a 40K TT tomorrow as part of an oly tri. Hoping to easily PR it and possibly [??] go under 1:10... [21.3 mph avg], features FLAT course, light winds, some sand, and [6] 180* hairpin turns to deal with. No problem I think. Also on zipp 404s [clincher doe] and a disc cover rear over the 404
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#8714488 - 07/04/16 07:43 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: schtickaz.ai]
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first mtb race in CO. 50 miles, 6900ft of climb. race was from 9,500 ft-11,100f t, with 90% being above 10k ft. holy fuck.

Edited by nato2377 (07/04/16 09:15 PM)
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#8717964 - 07/07/16 07:12 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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its still early but im meeting with the national sales manager of a major bike manufacturer next weekend to discuss a potential pro sponsorship offer to include free bikes, entry fees and cash for podiums! WOOT! more to come...
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#8718038 - 07/07/16 08:54 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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That is awesome. I'm guessing you wished you had moved sooner? On a 1-10 amazing scale with 1 being amazing and 10 being super amazing, what would you rate the mountain biking in CO?
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#8718288 - 07/07/16 11:48 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby
That is awesome. I'm guessing you wished you had moved sooner? On a 1-10 amazing scale with 1 being amazing and 10 being super amazing, what would you rate the mountain biking in CO?


ive actually been doing a ton of road riding, just bought a new road bike actually lol stuff around denver i give a 7, the race in breckenridge a 10
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#8719946 - 07/09/16 05:46 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Understandable, i'm sure the mountain roads are just gorgeous and are just as awesome as trail riding. I'd probably ride a lot more road if I had those kind of roads at my doorstep, instead I have corn fields.
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#8720361 - 07/09/16 06:56 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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Roads are so epic. i climbed 6400ft in 35 miles today. heres a bunch of my adventures so far.
16 mile climb to Echo Lake


Dirt Road along the South Platte River



Boulder



6mile dirt road climb on a road bike. yee haw!




Bike Commute



The downhill after a 18mi climb



Flagstaff Mtn. From today




Breckenridge before Firecracker 50 mtb race



Aint scurred of no pussy cats



1st 14'er. We drove \:D



Mtb outside Golden



Getting dirty on the Colorado Trail



Golden Gate Canyon. Got soaked



Firecracker 50 start. dude from mexico is PUMPED!



Colorado Trail



outside Boulder



Climbing at 12k ft above tree line. did this first week i was there and had to turn around because i thought i was going to pass out lol


goofin
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#8720968 - 07/10/16 06:30 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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New Bike, 2016 Blue Axino SL w/ Dura-Ace. She fast.
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#8721291 - 07/11/16 06:12 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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So jealous of those views and climbs. I managed to get 3900mtr of elevation this week but it was from climbing an old garbage hill over and over and over \:\( FML
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#8721666 - 07/11/16 12:54 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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Any bikes you want to sell now Nato?
;\)
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#8726034 - 07/15/16 03:22 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: ]
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if i get ths sponsorshIP, my ellsworth will be up for sale. my old road bike w/ powermeter and a pair of zipp404's ill let go CHEAP. i need a new powermeter for the new bike
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#8729450 - 07/19/16 02:32 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Anyone riding RAGBRAI this year
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#8729539 - 07/19/16 03:42 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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 Originally Posted By: nato2377
if i get ths sponsorshIP, my ellsworth will be up for sale. my old road bike w/ powermeter and a pair of zipp404's ill let go CHEAP. i need a new powermeter for the new bike


GO NATE!! ;\)

Seriously though, good luck man. Maybe I should fly out to pick up the bike...
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#8729755 - 07/19/16 07:16 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: ]
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fly out and ride it home \:D
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#8729795 - 07/19/16 07:54 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Let me draft you the whole way!
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#8751198 - 08/07/16 12:15 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: ]
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28mph avg for 55 min in my race today. holy fucking ouch
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#8751663 - 08/07/16 09:50 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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What sort of heart rate at those speeds?

I did an 8 hour mtb race 2 weeks ago and had an avg. hr of 162bpm for the 8 hours. Couldn't sleep for two nights after that.
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#8751727 - 08/07/16 11:23 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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avg was 178, which really isnt to high for me. im usually in the 180 range for xc mtb. this was only a cat2/3 crit...our lap times were only 8-10 seconds off of the pro times from later that night. im talking UCI pro teams like united healthcare and astellas. i finished 49/71...didnt even bother to go for it because i would have had to ride 40+ to get to the front and that wasnt happening. it was strung out the whole race from the gun

been there and done that with the 160 range for 8 hours when i did those 100 mile races! i feel ya!
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#8751731 - 08/07/16 11:24 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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i did get a 9th and 10th in my two crits last weekend. back to back days of racing at 26.5mph. won a little cash. got another crit in 2 weeks and then steamboat stage race labor day and then im done for the year aside from a little cross
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#8751789 - 08/08/16 05:57 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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So you just sticking mostly to road now and giving up on the mtb racing?
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#8752146 - 08/08/16 11:56 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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I just averaged 20.3 mph over a 6 mile segment over the weekend. Thought you guys would be super interested to hear that
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