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#7767699 - 07/09/14 04:47 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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yea, and I know what 8.5 mph on a mtbike is like, and have no concept of 25-30 mph and bridging gaps and all that
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#7768019 - 07/09/14 08:24 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: stickaz_old]
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yea, and I know what 8.5 mph on a mtbike is like, and have no concept of 25-30 mph and bridging gaps and all that


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#7768731 - 07/10/14 09:46 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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 Originally Posted By: g@mby
I'll definitely agree to disagree with that one. 20 hours of anything will shut down most people.

...and those TdF bikes are 15 lbs, BTW. ;\)


I will say after riding my first bike yesterday in over a decade, hills absolutely SUCK. Granted this was mountain biking. But riding the flats at higher speeds weren't too bad.
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#7768987 - 07/10/14 11:27 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: Design]
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RAGBRAI starts next weekend and I'll be riding the entire thing for the first time for a total of 418 miles. I'm well over 1,000 miles in the last couple months and have trained more than ever.





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#7769259 - 07/10/14 01:29 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: Lewis]
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That sounds like a blast.
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#7772263 - 07/12/14 04:40 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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Did a 4 hour relay race today. Due to the fact the course was only 1.3 miles long, opted to do a 2 man team with my buddy. Based on pre reg we thought we would clean house until we show up and 2 local pros (nick sears, ron harding) signed up day off. It was a le mans start, about 100 yards. I was starting first and at the gun we took off. I slotted into 2nd behind Nick but he had 10 seconds on my at the top of the first climb and 20 seconds on the first lap. I rode 4, 6:5X laps then tagged off to my team mate. Long story short, he slashed his tire, finished the lap, i went while he found a tube. I do my 4 laps, then tag him back in. slashes his tire again!!! i give him my bike to finish the lap, then hop on and go. He runs 20 min away to a bike shop while I tone it down and do a hour stint. In that time we slipped from 2nd to 3rd and were 2 min 30secs back from 2nd and 3 laps down on first (sears/harding). jason gets back the 3hr 15 min mark and we switch to two lap stints and hammer the fuck out of the course and come back and pull off a 2nd!










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#7773359 - 07/13/14 06:14 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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welp, just signed up for USA Mountain Bike XC National Championships today. signed up for Short Track XC on thursday at 3pm, XC on sat at 8am, and super d on sunday at 9. its going to be a world of pain. in most of my races there is only 1 or 2 other PA guys, everyone else is out of state. nervous as hell already. only need a 5th to get a medal, thats my only goal LOL
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#7776770 - 07/16/14 05:09 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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good luck - doing an omnium like that myself this weekend in Arkansas, should be pure misery
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#7776949 - 07/16/14 08:53 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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Good luck fellas! Sounds like some pretty demanding events!
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#7777574 - 07/16/14 02:03 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: JT]
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good luck as well shamrok!

heres a few more pics from last race by the event photog.

LeMans start




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#7778094 - 07/16/14 05:55 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Badass pics. \:\)
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#7780180 - 07/17/14 08:05 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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not a lot of photogs at some of our events, well I was one that would do it before I sold off all camera gear so I could just play with bikes.


from the paper - starting stretch was fast (think we got up to 29-30mph?) and hard pack at first and then dipped into about a 40ft sandpit before it returned to hard pack.


I had some bloody and bruised pinkies from this tree

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#7780185 - 07/17/14 08:15 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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nice pics! how did you do?

Knocked first nationals race out of the way today...most painful 30 minutes ive ever done on a bike. i went so hard my teeth fucking hurt when i was done. got called up 22nd out of 25, last row. managed to pass some people on the start and clawed my way to a 11th out of 25, about 2:40 behind the leader. it was 20 min + 3 lap race. ill let the strava pic do the talking about the sufferfest i enured. especially the 190hr avg for a half hour. pre rode the XC course for sat and crashed twice taking it easy. fuck. me.


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#7780190 - 07/17/14 08:19 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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those were from a win

i'm anxious for short track tomorrow - hopefully all these hill repeats and crits have prepared me to be in pure agony for half an hour \:\(

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#7781377 - 07/18/14 01:48 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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yeah it will be miserable for sure. see if you can make your teeth ache too \:D best of legs!
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#7781826 - 07/18/14 06:32 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Holy shit, 190 average over 31 minutes, you were defintiely putting down WAY more than 258W.
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#7782021 - 07/18/14 09:12 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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yeah dude it was fucking ridiculous. it was a flat out sprint the whole time. i was anaerobic for over 13 minutes... lol
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#7782442 - 07/19/14 10:53 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Results are in. USA Mountain Bike XC National Championships CAT1 Men 25-29: 4th

OMG so pumped! Podiummmmmmmm!

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#7782846 - 07/19/14 08:40 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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How long before I see you in world cup races?
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#7782967 - 07/19/14 10:43 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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 Originally Posted By: nato2377
Results are in. USA Mountain Bike XC National Championships CAT1 Men 25-29: 4th

OMG so pumped! Podiummmmmmmm!


dis elite nigga
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#7783348 - 07/20/14 01:58 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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Raced Super D today, got 11th
So Saturday rolled around for the CAT1 and Pro XC races at the national championships and I was a nervous mess. I didnt really care about short track since i never raced it and same with super d. cross country was the race i wanted to do well in. The course is tough. it starts with a 2.5 mile climb to the top of the ski resort on super rocky singletrack, followed by even gnarlier rocks on the descent. Ive ridden the course previously in local series so i was hoping the hometown advantage would come into play. i was a little unsure of how i would do since ive done primarily ultra endurance races this year and not much XC. nevertheless, i had a high enough ranking to get a 12th place call up on the 2nd row. 8:02am the gun goes off and away we go under partly cloudy skies and a nice temp of about 65 degrees. i didnt get the best start i wanted but i made some moves on the climb. i had no idea where i was the whole race since we got mixed in the the class that started before us. all i knew was i had to push the whole race. The first time around went well, no mistakes, the climb didnt hurt that bad and i made it through heckle pit and the switchbacks without coming off the bike, which is the hardest part of the course. 2nd time around i kept passing people from the class that started in front of us but no one was passing me. i could see a few guys behind me, but they werent closing, so i kept pushing but tried to ride within myself a bit to save some for the end just in case. about midway down the 2nd lap i catch a kid in my age group, i asked to pass but then he picked the pace up and i couldnt get around. we cross the line side by side and start the last lap. well, i got a bit in front of him and i guess he saw my that had my class number markered on and he turned up the pace. we hammered the shit out of the climb, swapping positions a few times. towards the top i slowed a bit because i didnt want to crack and i figured id have a shot at him in the rocks. well we get to the rocks, i was tired, started making a few mental mistake and ate shit going across a wet wooden bridge. i bent my brake lever pretty good and that was all he needed. I rode as fast as i could to keep someone from catching me and kept telling myself, no mistakes. once i made it through heckle pit and switchbacks i knew i was home free. I started getting slight cramps 1Km to go but didnt get bad and i crossed the line in 4th. the guy i was battling with was 3rd, so for a little, i was in 3rd! i finished 6 min behind the winner and 2 min ahead of 5th. I was so pumped, i rode MY race just the way i wanted and gave it all i had without blowing myself up/minimal mistakes. so pumped.

this is how rocky this place is, pretty much everywhere except for the climb. this is from last years race. (not me)


Heckle Pit





Race Start


Racin!


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#7783445 - 07/20/14 04:48 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Shitty vid coming through heckle pit

http://vid19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/twiztedcav09/JustinVideo_zpse4e9ba5c.mp4


Edited by nato2377 (07/20/14 04:49 PM)

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#7783474 - 07/20/14 05:34 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Bad weekend, got 2nd in the short track Friday night and got a good preride early Saturday morning.

But after I finished practice run of the Super D, we ended up having to climb all the way up to the top of the course since two semi's had wrecked and blocked all traffic from getting to summit of course. So upon this climb I apparently slapped some sharp rock and ripped a huge hole in sidewall, so I walk all the way back since tube wasn't working either. I get down and have a beer until a buddy tells me has a new tire in back of car and we can bum some Stanz/air from bike shop tent. Needless to say this started a mad dash to get that switched and a quick ride up to the summit (the trucks had been cleared at this point).

My ride was going pretty good, was hammering the XC portion of the Super D that promptly turned down a fireroad that consisted of nothing but gravel/babyheads and lots and lots of speed. About halfway down this segment I deviate from the line I had wanted to go, which leads me to a drop that I was not ready to hit at all. Think my bike just went forward too much for me to correct and save. I think I was unconscious for a few minutes until I woke up to EMS checking me out. Got a ride to ER and 9 staples/4 stitches into left knee and 5 staples/one stick into right elbow.

Needless to say I didn't do the XC today - sad face
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#7783992 - 07/21/14 10:12 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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It seemed to be a very bad weekend at this course. Lots of injuries and even sadly enough from a girl pre-riding the xc course, who was a member of local Ark team.

http://www.arkansasoutside.com/we-lost-a-hero/

sad sad weekend here in AR/OK
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#7785093 - 07/22/14 12:41 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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Splits from today's ride. Usual 20-mile path out-and-back--flat with one 1-mile climb. Just about windless tonight, so I was able to put the hammer down.



Hopefully I can make it to Tuesday's TT.
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#7785391 - 07/22/14 10:18 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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sucks about your crash shamrock, hope you heal up fast! grats on the short track though! i remember seeing something about that girl on FB..she was a member of a cycling page that i was a member of too...sad..was it a freak thing or was it a pretty bad crash?

nice work gamby, youre going to tear up the TT!

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#7785394 - 07/22/14 10:20 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby
How long before I see you in world cup races?


ha! i wish..nowhere near that level. going to race the pro/open class the rest of the year to hopefully get in some good results and then put in for my pro upgrade. woot

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#7785519 - 07/22/14 11:25 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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 Originally Posted By: nato2377


nice work gamby, youre going to tear up the TT!


I hope so--we'll see.

Glossed over the shamrok stuff initially. Sorry about all of the bad juju. Heal up soon, good sir. \:\)
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#7785612 - 07/22/14 12:29 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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It was a freak hit to head
 Originally Posted By: nato2377
sucks about your crash shamrock, hope you heal up fast! grats on the short track though! i remember seeing something about that girl on FB..she was a member of a cycling page that i was a member of too...sad..was it a freak thing or was it a pretty bad crash?

nice work gamby, youre going to tear up the TT!
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#7786669 - 07/22/14 11:34 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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 Originally Posted By: shamrok
It was a freak hit to head


Horrible. \:\(

On a lighter note, nato was right--I PR'ed tonight. Didn't break into the 35's, but a 36:09 for the 12:08 mile course put me over the magic 20mph avg mark for the first time. Times are starting to get respectable.

Was so stoked, I opted to do the brick and ran a 5k afterwards.

Splits:

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#7786760 - 07/23/14 01:05 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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Sick bro, jealous
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#7787236 - 07/23/14 11:09 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: stickaz_old]
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It's in you. It just has to be uncovered. I'm 42 and I'm faster than I was 2 years ago. Keep at it. \:\)
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#7787292 - 07/23/14 11:45 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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I came really close on my last tri [sprint] with an 11.2 mile course and a little hill [200'] per strava I did it in 33:09 for 11.2 miles so just over 20.0 mph

*but* as the bike transition starts with an awkward push-walk-mount to clear the timer, then a short/steep hill to get to the course in a granny gear, then the same super short/tight course to get back to end the timing I fell down to 19.5 mph avg on their official records it was 34:30 so aggh

what I'm thinking is I still can't avg 20.0 for 40k/25m aka not fit enough. And forget about conserving for a 10k run/jog after heh. Maybe next year. Was hoping to get there this sep but who knows

**yes aerobars and zipp 404s

***but that was after a swim where I completely bonked/hyperventilated so not under the best possible conditions

so yea no I didn't make it but I'm close. I was intentionally backing off the climb a little and the flat/return area to allow my run to be better. I dunno these are all just excuses.

thats my fastest effort to date of anything similar. Any of my commutes are always in the 17.x range at best mostly because I can't race around people hogging the bike lanes and traffic stops/intersections etc


#proof!!
and lol @ 17/34 aka slow/mid-packer [I know I know]
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#7787363 - 07/23/14 12:23 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: stickaz_old]
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(you forgot to blur your name out on strava)

 Originally Posted By: stickaz


what I'm thinking is I still can't avg 20.0 for 40k/25m aka not fit enough.


Bullshit. I still haven't. I think I'm gonna try the 17.5 mile flat portion of my regular path on Friday and see if I can finally do it. The best I've done there is ~19.5 IIRC. I just need to catch another low-wind day. AVERAGING 20 is a pretty herculean task, because you have to spend quite a bit of time at 23-24 to even it all out.

My TT is a bad example for average speed. A few decent climbs and then a few miles of fast descending that throw the whole thing off. Not a traditional TT layout because hilly RI.

Quads are pretty fried from yesterday's brick doe. No fallout from the run, which I'm STOKED about. I think I'm finally used to running (knock on wood).
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#7787387 - 07/23/14 12:34 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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yea hills make a big diff, see that big spike on my pic up there around mile 5? lol. there's always something that makes it tough. Oh well that's why it's a goal ;\)
honestly for me avg'ing 20.0 on this sprint course with that hill was a huge accomplishment. now I just need to be able to hold that for 25.0 miles lol. I was cruising [~145 HR] so who knows, maybe I'm close. Actually 145 HR for me is *not* cruising, but I wasn't killing myself zone [150-165 which I will hit on the run], because old my peak HR appears to be in the 170s or at least my HR monitor has never gone above that yet, even on interval training/sprints. aka old

and you're right--on flat ground I had to hold 21-22 on this course to make up for the hill and the beginning/end area
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