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#7402070 - 11/20/13 04:21 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: c2k]
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what's the point? Just to prove you wrong?
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#7402122 - 11/20/13 04:52 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Hatorade]
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All this trash talk.
Someone put out some money already XD

My money is on type r making a return.
That motor is already slated to be a global engine. They look to be spending a lot of time developing it (at least, marketing propaganda suggests that). It would be silly to dump so budget on something which will only see limited markets. Not like Honda is big in Japan...
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#7402209 - 11/20/13 05:43 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Hatorade]
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what's the point? Just to prove you wrong?


no, so I can prove you wrong!
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#7402236 - 11/20/13 05:58 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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maybe they release the next 'Si' with this motor. a type-r is meant to imply a stripped down near race car, minimal creature comforts for the sake of performance. they'd probably sell more cars if it had the power, but also heated leather, sound deadening, Navi, A/C, etc. something heavily track tuned would either sell low numbers or be produced in limited numbers, and might not be worth the cost involved in getting it approved for NA roads.

i think there would be the appetite for a type-R in NA, but i'm just not sure that i would make economic sense.
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#7402620 - 11/20/13 08:52 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4Three]
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i'll put a pitcher of beer on it.
if hatorade is right i buy him beer.
if c2k is right i buy him beer.
if both are wrong you buy me beer.
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#7403006 - 11/21/13 07:48 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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i'd want in, but since i already know the answer it wouldn't be fair
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#7403120 - 11/21/13 08:47 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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#7403126 - 11/21/13 08:49 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#7403220 - 11/21/13 09:21 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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i believe the civic project is being moved to usa r&d

sounds like a better chance of a high perf version to actually reach norf amerikuh

all-new civic in q4/2015?

5dr hatch to follow in 16?


wat dat wikileaks dew

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#7404478 - 11/21/13 05:12 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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 Originally Posted By: Simon_the_Pieman
i'll put a pitcher of beer on it.
if hatorade is right i buy him beer.
if c2k is right i buy him beer.
if both are wrong you buy me beer.


hatorade is betting it wont come to NA. Im betting it'd come to NA. What exactly are you betting on if we're both wrong?! LOL

bet sounds good to me!
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#7407714 - 11/23/13 07:25 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: c2k]
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^exactry! i just wanna drink beer with you bitches!
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#7422246 - 12/03/13 08:06 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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#7422423 - 12/03/13 09:36 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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dat ass don't look so good


and the front for fun:

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#7422657 - 12/03/13 11:03 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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w.
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looks like something out of need for speed


and not in a good way \:\(

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#7422826 - 12/03/13 12:17 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: spd-dmn]
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yeah that rear upper area is kinda barftastic, but not many options for a hatch that aggressively designed

upon closer inspection, it sadly reminds me of:


c230 sooooooo nasty in the rear
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#7422843 - 12/03/13 12:23 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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to me its more the total over-addition of stuff

wing? too much
flares and scoops and slats? wayyy too much

tiny tires under huge flares? camannnnn

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#7422852 - 12/03/13 12:26 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: spd-dmn]
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ummm...it's a type-r? of course it's going to be over the top....and functional.

lol at ppl - either the cars are to plain/boring/etc. - or now they're over the top

also, it's a prototype....wayyy far from being completed.
errr...235/35/19 tires are small on a civic?

/becuz race car
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#7422921 - 12/03/13 12:58 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: spd-dmn]
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to me its more the total over-addition of stuff

wing? too much
flares and scoops and slats? wayyy too much

tiny tires under huge flares? camannnnn


I'm with you on the styling aspect.
But all the aero they threw on the car was soley to drop lap times around the ring. According to articles, they have the handling where they want it, and they aren't going to move much further north with power because "they are at limitations of fwd + power + front suspension design and associated torque steer". So the aero components are there for the sake of finding more time to drop on the track.... at least, that is according to...damn, I forgot where I read that. Some online publication XD
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#7423270 - 12/03/13 02:59 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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car still looks good!

just need to know what the MRSP will be.
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#7423413 - 12/03/13 03:46 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: c2k]
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Giant wing, body kit, VTEC decals, quad exhaust... its 1999 all over again lol.
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#7423734 - 12/03/13 06:39 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: The Postman]
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looks like a new sti
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#7586019 - 03/04/14 08:05 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Euphoricuck]
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http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1090289_2015-honda-civic-type-r-concept-revealed-in-geneva-video

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/03/03/honda-civic-type-r-concept-leaked-geneva/



Edited by Screamin DC2R (03/04/14 08:07 AM)
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#7586057 - 03/04/14 08:34 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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#7586115 - 03/04/14 09:09 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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naw, im bottom of the ladder brah, nothing here
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#7586141 - 03/04/14 09:21 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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so is this coming here?
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#7586151 - 03/04/14 09:24 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: f22b-dohc]
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so is this coming here?


Not likely.
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#7586170 - 03/04/14 09:30 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: LNXGUY]
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so is this coming here?


Not likely.


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#7586173 - 03/04/14 09:31 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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Dude, no one ever brings over the cool cars. This will be just like the Scirocco \:\(
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#7586175 - 03/04/14 09:31 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1090289_2015-honda-civic-type-r-concept-revealed-in-geneva-video

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/03/03/honda-civic-type-r-concept-leaked-geneva/



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Unfortunately, the latest Civic Type R, like its predecessor, won’t be offered in the U.S. as it is based on the Civic platform designed for the rest of the world. The good news is that we may see some of the car's hardware in the next-generation CR-Z.


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#7586179 - 03/04/14 09:33 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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so is this coming here?


Not likely.


no faith? /brian earl spilner


so its coming over, and you are going to have a race car edition arent you?

**shotgun**
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#7586972 - 03/04/14 03:34 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: c2k]
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http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1090289_2015-honda-civic-type-r-concept-revealed-in-geneva-video

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/03/03/honda-civic-type-r-concept-leaked-geneva/



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Unfortunately, the latest Civic Type R, like its predecessor, won’t be offered in the U.S. as it is based on the Civic platform designed for the rest of the world. The good news is that we may see some of the car's hardware in the next-generation CR-Z.




Totally don't understand that article's point.
The car isn't coming over just because it was built using global architecture??? Um hello, it's 2014 man. I am struggling to think of a car that wasn't built on a global architecture
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#7587530 - 03/04/14 09:35 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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ugh i fucking love it.
im still a ricer. wtf.
i hope it comes here.
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#7587840 - 03/05/14 08:11 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: c2k]
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http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1090289_2015-honda-civic-type-r-concept-revealed-in-geneva-video

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/03/03/honda-civic-type-r-concept-leaked-geneva/



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Unfortunately, the latest Civic Type R, like its predecessor, won’t be offered in the U.S. as it is based on the Civic platform designed for the rest of the world. The good news is that we may see some of the car's hardware in the next-generation CR-Z.




lol source? just some random auto news piece? is that from honda worldwide?
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#7588890 - 03/05/14 05:02 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1090289_2015-honda-civic-type-r-concept-revealed-in-geneva-video

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/03/03/honda-civic-type-r-concept-leaked-geneva/



 Quote:

Unfortunately, the latest Civic Type R, like its predecessor, won’t be offered in the U.S. as it is based on the Civic platform designed for the rest of the world. The good news is that we may see some of the car's hardware in the next-generation CR-Z.




lol source? just some random auto news piece? is that from honda worldwide?


just quoting from the article.

frankly I still want it to come here. Im still driving my 03 civic and my boy will be 16 in 4 years and he will be getting the 03 civic while I get the turbo civic!
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#7589839 - 03/06/14 08:27 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: c2k]
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I still don't doubt as much as others regarding this car's future in North America. Historically sure, Honda hasn't sent something like this here in a long time. But if Ford is sending Mustang to EMEA and APAC, and Fiat sent the Abarth here, and a market for fun cars long past is emerging (FRS), then why not bring this here. Even Mercedes brought the CLA here (AMG variant included!)--despite failures with past attempts at a cheapy benz.

And ok fine, Type R was lost money for every unit sold in the past. But it served a different purpose. That same purpose is needed once again with Honda's unexciting lineup. Just like what the FRS is/has done for Toyota.
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