#50723 - 07/09/04 06:21 PM
Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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SiToeKnee
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#50724 - 07/09/04 06:52 PM
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hondajunkie
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 always wanted to do that. looks good. Good how-to also.
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#50726 - 07/09/04 08:44 PM
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Trixiem
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haha we'd be honored broken, the install wasn't that hard. Also we screwed up a little bit where a corner is showing but you can only see it if you look at it at all angels. Was nerve wrecking cutting into fenders even tho tony did most of the cutting cause i'm a pussy haha. Forgot to mention to use touch up paint to prevent rust on the cut surfaces, i didn't have any VSM so i used tonys EBP touch up on my VSM lol
-kenny
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#50727 - 07/09/04 10:45 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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SiToeKnee
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haha we'd be honored broken, the install wasn't that hard. Also we screwed up a little bit where a corner is showing but you can only see it if you look at it at all angels. Was nerve wrecking cutting into fenders even tho tony did most of the cutting cause i'm a pussy haha. Forgot to mention to use touch up paint to prevent rust on the cut surfaces, i didn't have any VSM so i used tonys EBP touch up on my VSM lol
-kenny
oops, knew i forgot to add something. i'll put that in now.
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#50728 - 07/09/04 11:33 PM
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sky1004db
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this should be a sticky  :D
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#50731 - 07/11/04 12:48 PM
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GTGOTEN
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#50733 - 07/14/04 12:49 PM
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Trixiem
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haha yea thanks chris, all credit goes to him for the nibbler idea 
-kenny
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#50734 - 08/13/04 05:40 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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EngineNoO9
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Registered: 05/08/04
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two questions... how'd you connect wire to the sidemarker? you get a connector or something else?
*edit* got template to work now just curious bout wiring...
Edited by EngineNoO9 (08/13/04 05:47 PM)
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#50736 - 08/13/04 07:45 PM
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EngineNoO9
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ah ok yeah. i just thought of that as well honestly when i saw an extra one laying around here from installing something else.
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#50739 - 08/15/04 07:28 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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EngineNoO9
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just did it today on my hatch. looks nice 
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#50742 - 09/19/04 01:07 AM
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SiToeKnee
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bump for people. Im trying it soon as well...Ill post pics when done!
matt
good luck, hope everything works out for you.
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#50745 - 09/19/04 09:55 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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SiToeKnee
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Loc: Irvine, CA
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Also, what should I use for connectors? Do I have to buy the honda ones? Or can I use radio shacks stuff? Andf how much for this? Thanks
matt
You can buy the Honda OEM plugs if you want, they are for the prelude i believe. I used radio shack spade connectors. I'm not sure what the price is off the top of my head, but you buy a package of like 10 for a few bucks. Sorry I can't be of more help. If you search for this same thread in the General Forum, you might find that some people used the Honda plugs and some used the spades.
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#50747 - 09/20/04 11:25 AM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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SiToeKnee
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Could you show me the wiring diagram for NOT using the OEM harness please. I dont want pay the exra bucks. Haha. If you could, Id appreciate that. Woot!
matt
it's actually pretty simple. it doesn't matter which plug taps what wire from the socket of the sidemarker. as long as one wire is tapped into the red wire and the other is tapped into the green. that's if you want them to stay on along with your parking lights. if you want them to only blink with your turn signals, then you will only tap one, i forgot which, i think i stated above which one, and the other wire to tap is the ground wire (black). hope that helps. not sure if that's what you were looking for. good luck.
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#50748 - 09/20/04 01:35 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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RyCeRoCkEtZ
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Good job guys. I'm impressed that you finally did it after all that talk. I told you it wasn't that difficult. The nibblers work pretty goo, huh?
Way to go on the write up. I never have the patiuence to document all my DIYs, so this should help everybody out.
Very very nice write up you guys and easy to understand, If i were to grade this as a college professor I'd give it a A++++!!  . Hopefully I can get it started also.
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#50749 - 09/20/04 07:53 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Trixiem
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post them pictures
-kenny
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#50751 - 09/20/04 11:10 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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IntenseCivic
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good write up tony and kenny.
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#50752 - 09/21/04 01:17 AM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Trixiem
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Registered: 03/10/03
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Loc: Las Vegas, Nv
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hmm you need some wire T taps, 4 two on each side marker, and you need some wire, after that you need some spade connecters the ones that tony posted up you need about 4 of those too lol. The nibbler was honestly personal preference, if your good with a dremel you can use that, but we found it to be more accurate and you have more control over the cutting with the nibbler. It works like a holepuncher, but it punchs squares of metal out, so you put it where you wanna punch out and squeeze.
-kenny
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#50753 - 09/24/04 09:31 AM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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EngineNoO9
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Also, what should I use for connectors? Do I have to buy the honda ones? Or can I use radio shacks stuff? Andf how much for this? Thanks
matt
You can buy the Honda OEM plugs if you want, they are for the prelude i believe. I used radio shack spade connectors. I'm not sure what the price is off the top of my head, but you buy a package of like 10 for a few bucks. Sorry I can't be of more help. If you search for this same thread in the General Forum, you might find that some people used the Honda plugs and some used the spades.
i went to the honda dealer by me and the parts counter said he didn't think anything they had fit the connector. easier/cheaper to use the spade connectors and they fit snug too. i also sodered the wires off of the turn signals instead of cutting and splicing... haven't checked behind the markers since i did it but they're still working fine....
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#50755 - 09/25/04 11:10 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Noeladams
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Registered: 09/25/04
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Loc: Greenville, SC
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Ok-
When I went to print out the template, it came out seeminly small. The mm measurements did not match up correctly. So what do I do? Thanks a lot fellas.
matt
I printed it out also and didnt come out to size I did take paint and enlarge it some but it was off then. Hmmmm any help guys?
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#50757 - 10/19/04 06:34 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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SiToeKnee
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Loc: Irvine, CA
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I just got my sidemarkers and was wondering how these things stay in place?? is it just the clips on the sidemarker that holds them secure? so when i cut the hole and put the sidemarker in....will it just clip in and hold onto the fender? thanks guys.
pretty much, that is why the hole you cut needs to be very exact so that the sidemarker holds to the fender securely.
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#50758 - 10/21/04 10:41 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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SoLOW
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just got done doing mines, i was kinda nervous cutting a hole in my fender. in the end it looks real nice and this write-up helped ALOT. thanks guys!! heres a pic or 2
sorry about the quality *camera fone*
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#50759 - 10/22/04 03:21 AM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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SiToeKnee
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good work, looks really good.
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#50760 - 10/22/04 09:54 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Trixiem
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Loc: Las Vegas, Nv
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why yes it does
-kenny
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#50761 - 10/23/04 05:43 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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SoLOW
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Registered: 10/19/04
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is there anyway to secure it on my fender, because it seems so easy to steal.
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#50764 - 10/26/04 05:37 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Trixiem
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Yeah...they are easy to steal. Somebody swiped mine (I'm the OG sidemarker diy'er, Kenny and Tony rode my nuts on this one.  ) so I picked up some smoked clear knockoffs that look better with my black and white car.
I don't think you could do anything from the outside, but I suppose that you could pull the fender off and rig up a bracket or something.
lol yup chris did it first and gave US advice
-kenny
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#50765 - 01/20/05 10:22 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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slowciv
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I Just want to say thank you so much. this thread was a BIG help today when i installed my markers.
Edited by slowciv (01/20/05 10:35 PM)
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#50767 - 01/26/05 12:50 AM
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slowciv
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props man, looks nice!
Thank you
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#50768 - 01/26/05 10:01 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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SiToeKnee
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nice work, looks great. glad that our how-to helped you out.
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#50769 - 01/27/05 01:53 AM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Trixiem
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Loc: Las Vegas, Nv
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indeed looks really really good
-kenny
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#50770 - 01/30/05 10:27 PM
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manuels92si
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Registered: 12/23/04
Posts: 26
Loc: California, LA, D-TOWN
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looks kool, did u (SiToeKnee ) get any gaskets for your side markers? i went to a junk yard and there were some jdm fenders with markers and they had a gasket for da lights. i'll post sum pics tomorrow if i can. by the way, any1 know wat bulbs fit jdm eg-6 lights. H4's dont fit. i allready got the wedge bulbs.
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#50771 - 01/31/05 03:09 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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SiToeKnee
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looks kool, did u (SiToeKnee ) get any gaskets for your side markers? i went to a junk yard and there were some jdm fenders with markers and they had a gasket for da lights. i'll post sum pics tomorrow if i can. by the way, any1 know wat bulbs fit jdm eg-6 lights. H4's dont fit. i allready got the wedge bulbs.
No, we did not use gaskets on our sidemarkers, the fit was close enough to the frame that water didn't really get in. I've had them on through a rainy season and have not had any rust problems. The coating of touch up paint on the raw metal should be enough to prevent rust, but if you can get the gaskets, and you'd feel more comfortable with them, go ahead and put them on. Trixiem and I live in Southern California where rain is not really that big of an issue. Sorry, can't really help you with the headlight problem, sounds like you might have to get a non-US headlight bulb for those JDM headlights. A couple of aftermarket stores sell them, I can't say which ones off the top of my head right now though.
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#50772 - 02/02/05 01:59 AM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Trixiem
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Loc: Las Vegas, Nv
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Rust is not a problem as long as you make sure you coat the bare metal with touchup paint.
-kenny
ps bald azenis sports suck in rain
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#50773 - 02/04/05 03:33 AM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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SiToeKnee
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Rust is not a problem as long as you make sure you coat the bare metal with touchup paint.
-kenny
ps bald azenis sports suck in rain
amen to that ps jackass.
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#50774 - 02/12/05 02:18 AM
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SpinningDUBz
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keep the good how to threads rolling in tony and kenny . glad i installed mines also looks 100x better than with out one. which i bought from ICB also.
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#50777 - 03/27/05 07:00 PM
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deeksmooth
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Registered: 03/07/05
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thx for the write up, i did this last night and it turned out great... i found the dremel easier to use if you've got a strong/steady hand.
and i did a good job at breaking my temp gauge needle when i dropped the CTR bezel in... had to order a new gas/temp assy.
pics are from a nextel i860 cam phone so the quality isn't that great.
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#50778 - 04/01/05 05:31 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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ChrisLaw
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#50781 - 04/08/05 02:52 AM
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d0hc81
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here you go, 96-98 spec
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#50783 - 04/08/05 11:04 PM
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d0hc81
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its ok, i did mines backwards too.
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#50784 - 04/22/05 03:50 PM
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chitown Si
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i cant get the template to print out the right size, any suggestions?
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#50786 - 10/23/05 12:05 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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5iveLug_EK
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Registered: 10/04/05
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Loc: TX
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I bought them in amber anyway, They are used JDM from japan and come with the OEM connector plugs some of you guys asked about. Problem is the plugs have three wires coming out of them. I need to know where to splice the third wire. Leave oit dangling? Or should I just use the dang female crimp connectors even though I am afraid they will fall off?
*edit* they came in today, stupid thing is I was excited because I thought before I opened the box that it would be the cam plate bolts that I need to make the car run. instead they are the damn side marker lights. DOH!
*edit again* Ok, two of the three wires are green with white stripes and the third is all black, somebody help me with this. I assume that i will use the green wires to tap and just leave the black one alone.
ok i'm having the same problem ^ he is. only to make matters more difficult, i'm trying to wire my ctr city lights in too. nothing is working right and i am running outa fuses 
p.s. sorry for bringing this thread back from the dead.
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#50787 - 10/25/05 08:23 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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5iveLug_EK
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Registered: 10/04/05
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Loc: TX
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is there anyone out there with city lights AND sidmarkers?
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#50789 - 10/27/05 11:11 AM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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SiToeKnee
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I bought them in amber anyway, They are used JDM from japan and come with the OEM connector plugs some of you guys asked about. Problem is the plugs have three wires coming out of them. I need to know where to splice the third wire. Leave oit dangling? Or should I just use the dang female crimp connectors even though I am afraid they will fall off?
*edit* they came in today, stupid thing is I was excited because I thought before I opened the box that it would be the cam plate bolts that I need to make the car run. instead they are the damn side marker lights. DOH!
*edit again* Ok, two of the three wires are green with white stripes and the third is all black, somebody help me with this. I assume that i will use the green wires to tap and just leave the black one alone.
ok i'm having the same problem ^ he is. only to make matters more difficult, i'm trying to wire my ctr city lights in too. nothing is working right and i am running outa fuses
p.s. sorry for bringing this thread back from the dead.
The solution that Chris Law did looks like he ended up going with our crimp connectors and not using the CTR OEM connector plug. However, with my understanding of wiring (which is limitied) I would assume that the two green wires each tap into the two "live" wires. One green would tap the red (parking lights) and the other would tap the green (turn signal) and then the black would be tapped into the ground wire. I'm not sure how this would work though, since that would allow power to always be passing through the light and I think it would just always stay on when you had your headlights on. The reason you're blowing fuses is probably because you haven't been tapping the black wire, it needs to be grounded. You also might want to consider upping the fuse value since you'll be tapping both your city lights and your sidemarker lights, although there shouldn't really be any reason too, just make sure that nothing is making contact with other wires. The option that you can do that follows our wiring, would be to remove the OEM plugs and just connect to the two metal tabs coming out of the bottom of the light plug. This would mean that only one wire would go to either red or green on your car, and the other would tap into the black (ground). As for your city lights, you would do the same thing, except you would definitely tap the red wire so that it came on only with your parking lights. I've never seen a city light blink, and there's no need for it to do so since you have a turn signal in the headlight housing already. And then the other wire would tap into the ground.
Sorry I've been MIA on this. I have no idea where Kenny (Trixiem) is, so I don't think he is going to chime in on this issue. He is more knowledgable about electrical unfortunately. I hope that this helps. Good luck.
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#50790 - 10/27/05 05:01 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Trixiem
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im right here. can you take a picture of the plug and pm it to me or upload it on here. it also confuses me as to why there would be three wires coming from a single filament bulb  my assumption would be to find the two live wires that actually controls the bulb... try wiring up a 9v to two of the wires to see if it lights up, then hook those wires up to the turn singal for usdm, or turn signal and park signal for JDM goodness.
As for the city light, tap both of those wires to the red(parkinglight) and ground from the headlight harness... sorry im so vague right now cause i have no access to a car for a short period of time.
i'll check back here after i look around, i think i have one of those plugs too actually. so hang tight.
-kenny
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#50793 - 01/24/06 03:23 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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aresk_zc
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Registered: 12/14/05
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Loc: PR / ITALY
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#50795 - 02/03/06 07:21 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Trixiem
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it was alot easier than it even looks on the write up. just go for it. measure twice cut once. since then my car is no longer here. RIP.
-kenny
ninja edit: the city light depends on how you want it done. they way i am told, is that the city lights are on when your parking lights are on. They are not on during the day(IE daytime running lights) and they certainly do not blink. To get the desired effect.you can wire it up to DRL using a relay. it will turn on when your car is on, and off when your car is off.
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#50796 - 02/22/06 12:34 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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btune eddie
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Registered: 02/21/06
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Loc: CA, USA
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Markers need to be glued in or it will get stolen like mine did
lol
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Eddie
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#1208858 - 03/30/07 07:24 PM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning
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dc5_lov3r
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Registered: 02/24/07
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Just wondering, does ICB sell the markers with a wiring kit??
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#7896171 - 10/04/14 11:03 AM
Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning
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Johnm209
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Registered: 10/04/14
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anyone know the correct measurement where to cut? i try using the 155mm up and 140mm across measurements but its to high up.
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For the Love of the Music....
i think i put mine in backwards, I have the more protruding portion to the front...
sex atTEAL 
