#174352 - 01/31/06 10:35 PM
**Official HID Thread**
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2000CheetahStud
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For the people who have HID Kits/ Retrofits in your cars. Lets try and make this into a center of HID info. I know there are numerous people on here who have Kits, and others who have gone the retrofit route. If you wouldnt mind, post pics of your lights, and a cutoff. I know there are other threads, but if we can consolidate all of those into one, thatd help clean things up a bit. Also, give any information. Where you got it, what projectors youre using, how much it cost you, how hard install was, etc.
Lets see em! -Matt
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#174353 - 01/31/06 11:00 PM
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PurduinaSi
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#174357 - 02/01/06 09:02 AM
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Civic4drNWV
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Registered: 04/02/03
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Loc: WV and Daytona Beach, FL
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Here is my setup. These are old pics from fall and have since then made some changes, so I will post up some new ones after I fix them here shortly. I blew an ignitor. 
Anywho, my setup is as follows:
2005 Acura TL Bi-xenon projectors, lightly modded to get more color at cutoff and more foreground light. Matsushita GEN 1 Ballasts and Ignitors from an Infiniti RX330 Various wiring, connectors, and relays for custom harness
The shroud/bezel of each projector is made from PVC and raw aluminum. And NO, those are NOT angel eyes around each projector. That is the chrome ring that holds the projector lens to the body of each projector.
Well, these are the pics for now, I will add some others including pics of the build itself later on.





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#174366 - 02/07/06 09:50 AM
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2000CheetahStud
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hey there! will it help if you tilt the stock headlight down a bit? in order not to blind any oncoming traffic with the glare from the HID. or maybe change the bulb to 4000k? just so it's not as harsh.
You can aim them down, but they'll still get glare. So no, that wont help. And 4000k is brighter than 6000k or 8000k, so that wouldnt do much either. If you want HID's, do it the *right* way and retrofit
Agreed. If you look at Civic4drnw pictures of the cutoff line, and see that they are practically straight across, thats what you want. And you can only get that, for our cars, through retrofitting. There is no plug and play kit, no amount of headlight tweaking, etc, that will get your cutoff line to look like that.
-matt
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#174370 - 02/09/06 03:55 PM
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Thomas
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Registered: 03/23/03
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I guess I'll play.
1st retro I did:
Setup:
2x OEM 96-98 Honda Civic Headlights
2x OEM Honda S2000 Projectors
2x OEM Audi A4 Bezels
2x OEM Nissan/Matsushita Ballasts
2x OEM Phillips 85122 4100k/4300k D2S bulbs
1x Custom wiring harness
Part list + Labor =
Output:
I know there's some glare, but very little, and it's all from the overwhelming amount of "CHROME" everywhere in my headlights.
Sold that entire retro, couldn't stay away from HID's (cause im such a HIDwhore) I bought this retro from a friend (98civic on this forum) Ripped it apart and redid the housings and bezels, bought new ballasts and bulbs and viola.
2nd retro:
Setup:
2x OEM 96-98 Honda Civic Headlights (Painted gunmetal)
2x OEM Audi RS6 Bi-Xenon Projectors
2x OEM Audi/BMW HELLA GEN3 ballasts
2x OEM Phillips 85122 4100k/4300k D2S bulbs
1x Custom wiring harness
No output shots yet just these 2 pictures
Not as bright as the s2000 projectors, but the high beam is AWESOME haha. Sitting and waiting for a new set of projectors to start my 3rd retrofit , and hopefully it'll be my last.
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#174371 - 05/12/06 11:13 PM
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specie
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Registered: 11/10/00
Posts: 458
Loc: Gainesville, FL
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Nice retrofits.
I'm doing a projector retrofit in a little bit, got my Audi projectors, need some other parts.
However, I had a set of HIDs from an Acura TL and I did a quick rebased to fit my Accord with 9004 headlights. I've sold the car and kept the HIDs. How much different is our 9003 vs the 9004 base? I was wondering if I had to redo it completely or just modify it a little bit.
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#174372 - 07/23/06 12:49 PM
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tyronebiggims
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Registered: 06/21/06
Posts: 9
Loc: Canada
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i bought a 9000K helios HID kit recently and have used them with my 99 si headlights i really enjoy the color of the light but im unhappy with the glare. i would like to go the *right* way and go with a retrofit. what do i need to buy? where can i buy it? how much will it cost? how hard is install? im sorry its obvious i am a noob but i would like to do things properly and make it look as nice as possible. I don't care about hi-beams, i just want a single beam. thanks any help given!
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#174378 - 08/09/06 12:31 AM
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jmeister
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Loc: New York
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#174380 - 10/28/06 06:26 PM
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Rezon
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The output of these retrofits looks great, but frankly the lights themselves look a little too hacked up for my taste.
Call me a ricer, but rather than cutting the back off the OEM lights, what are everyone's thoughts on starting with a set of ebay projector lights, then doing something like a TSX projector swap into those housings (since their lights undoubtedly suck). I was "browsing" out on ebay and honestly these things don't look that bad, although I wish they didn't all insist on using angel eyes. Again, I'm talking about retrofitting into these housings. Nice or rice?
examples of ebay proj housings:
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#174382 - 11/05/06 08:16 PM
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slowEJ8
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Registered: 11/01/06
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Loc: CA, USA
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Rice for sure...idk...i actually like just cutting back the OEM
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#1034507 - 02/13/07 12:14 AM
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RyCeRoCkEtZ
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I plan to get some yellow HIDs for the fogs, would there be any modifications or is it just plug and play?
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#1070139 - 02/19/07 08:40 PM
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lemmiwinks
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: bakersfield, cali
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might as well add myself too the list.
Mods... 2005 TL projectors with ZKW len mod 1 gen bosch ballast osram 4100K bulbs BMW E46 shrouds aftermarket black headlights custom H4 wiring harness everything done myself more pics coming tonight difficulty level- not too hard but not for amateur total about $1025


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#1072937 - 02/20/07 01:50 PM
Re: **Official HID Thread**
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PurduinaSi
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$1k is way too much. And HID fogs are worthless.
Contrary to popular belief, there is a such thing as 'too much light', even from a drivers perspective. High levels of foreground light give the illusion, the subjective impression, of comfort and security and "good lighting". This is one of the same reasons that OEM manufacturers never use HID foglights (poor CRI of HID bulbs being the other main reason).
In clear conditions, more foreground light is not a good thing, it's a bad thing. Some foreground light is necessary so you can use your peripheral vision to see where you are relative to the road edges, the lane markings etc. But foreground light is far less safety-critical than light cast well down the road into the distance, because at any significant speed (much above 30 mph), what's in the foreground is too close for you to do much about. If you increase the foreground light, your pupils react to the bright, wide pool of light by constricting, which in turn substantially reduces your distance vision—especially since there's no increase in down-the-road distance light to go along with the increased foreground light.
US-DOT headlamps have arguably inadequate levels of light in the foreground and to the sides. Many US DOT headlamps have what seems to be a "black hole" in front of the car, with essentially the entire beam concentrated in a narrow band or ball of light thrown into the distance. This problem gets overcorrected many times by an abundant HID light source and we have all this extra light to work with. Where are you going to put the extra light? You can put some of it into the "hot spot" to improve distance vision, but you can't put too much of it there, because you'll glare other drivers (and exceed regulated maximum intensities). You can spread some of it around in the rest of the beam, but there are often even stricter maxima outside of the hot spot or zone, and too much "generalized" light causes veiling glare and backdazzle in bad weather. So they put a lot of it in the foreground. But over a certain level, which is quite easy to exceed with an HID headlamp, undesireable things start to happen. You sacrifice distance vision, you get high levels of reflected-light glare on wet roads, that sort of thing.
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#1095509 - 02/26/07 04:21 PM
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ccarbajal
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PM'd back. Any of the guys on this forum will be more than willing to help ya out.
-Matt
Great! PMed the guys you referred me to. Thanks!
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#1109156 - 03/01/07 08:58 PM
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lemmiwinks
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yea i know it was way too much but hell i'm a HID nut so it all works out LMAO
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#1123053 - 03/05/07 07:22 PM
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OblivionLord
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Registered: 01/15/07
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Thomas on your black civic.. What lip brand and and make is that? I really like it. Do they sell them on the market and if so where?
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#1297603 - 04/25/07 08:18 PM
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TRAV!
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Registered: 04/25/07
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i would NEVER IN MY LIFE get HID headlights. I think there the most dangerous and annoying thing on the road. Who on here has had experiences like mine in which a car behind you(usually an SUV) has HID lights that hit your side view mirror and you cant see anything at night. Very dangerous and very annoying.
HID foglights I think are awesome. Its a sick look for your car and the light dosent penetrate anyones vision.
Id love to share a pic of my 1993 Civic Hatchback(RIP) with my HID fogs(3k)with my high beams on
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#1297616 - 04/25/07 08:23 PM
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TRAV!
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also forgot to add, i would like to let people in the NY area know of a great HID supplier.
These are Banbo Brand HID kits. They come with a true 1 year warranty. The kit comes with a warranty card and all kits are serial numbered. No fake "verbal warranties" here. I have all sizes and colors. Include 6000k, 8000k, 10000k, 12000k and 3000k yellow, Extreme Pink, Blue and Purple. All kits are in stock, special orders can be arranged. Shipping is included in the price. Kit details are as follows: Features: 1. Strong and rapid startup 2. High brightness: can reach 3,600LM 3. Steady brightness 4. Good performance with high and low temperature resistance
Parameters: 1) Input voltage rage: DC 8-18V 2) Rated voltage: 13.5V 3) Max. start voltage: 23kV 4) Input current: 3.1A+/- 5% 5) Output power: 35W+/-2W 6) Luminosity: 3,600 lumens 7) Working temperature: -40 ~ +105°C 8) Color temperature: 4,300K - 12,000K or above 9) Life-span: 3,000 hours 10) Startup time: can reach 20% of the standard brightness within 1 second; can reach 80% of the standard brightness within 4 seconds 11) Auto cut-off: once there is a short circuit or open circuit, the ballast will stop working automatically 12) Protection voltage: when the voltage exceed 19V, the ballast will stop working automatically, and make the output power below 45W, to protect the ballast and bulb from damage. When the voltage is 8V, the ballast still can work normally, but when the voltage is below 7V, the ballast will stop working to protect the ballast from damage 13) Reverse polarity protection: the ballast will stop working automatically when a reverse polarity happens 14) Radiation: Relative value: less than -70dB Absolute value: less than 20mW for standard wireless interference Relative value: less than -90dB Absolute value: less than 5mW for our product
You can either pick up it locally, I am located in suffolk, or have it shipped next day via DHL at no charge in the tri-state area. I accept Google checkout, and cash in person. To pay by Google Checkout please PM me your email addess and your order and I will email you an invoice.
Contact Info: phone - 631-831-2608 Nextel - 173*45*256 email Banbohid@gmail.com
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#1470586 - 05/23/07 04:10 PM
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bsmith100
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Has anyone tried retrofitting a 96-00 civic with a complete S2000 setup?
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#1746692 - 08/13/07 12:07 PM
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dragon208
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#1988291 - 10/28/07 09:56 AM
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wings5555
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nice hid's purple ftw
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#1988664 - 10/28/07 02:03 PM
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2000CheetahStud
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Has anyone tried retrofitting a 96-00 civic with a complete S2000 setup?
Search Honda-tech for that. I know the S2k has one of the best hid setups in any production car. The ONLY thing I dont much care for is that they're not bi-xenon. Which means the high beam is not HID.
-Matt
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#2051254 - 11/20/07 03:32 AM
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kakl
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Registered: 02/14/07
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I know a few people with S2000 projectors retrofitted into their headlights. I'd just go with the TSX projectors due to similar output and lower price.
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